tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post6750024941848884744..comments2024-02-25T19:43:16.535-05:00Comments on Marco On The Bass: Acid Ska - A Look Back At A Late 80's U.K. Ska PhenomenonMarco On The Basshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05874620674573034354noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-52738906796859436682015-07-15T00:15:12.346-04:002015-07-15T00:15:12.346-04:00hi,
I have the ska beat's-freestyle ska on vin...hi,<br />I have the ska beat's-freestyle ska on vinyl lp, it's a great record, I think it would have to be roughkneck-force ten from navarone & resolution 99'-maroon town that are best, along with rock to dis=Jamaica meantime, they aren't really a departure from ska, just an evolution, but then I was a skinhead, are mod-suedehead nowaday's, I think acid ska fit's into the late 80's ska revival, as you had the rap of maroon town in ska, experimental synth of reburial-potato 5, an unmistakeable synth ambience in 'the thing's that I do'-potato 5 with laurel Aitken,<br />not to mention suggs/chas smash of madness as the fink brothers-'mutant's in mega city 1',so it wasn't that removed from 2-tone either, considering the ruff 'n' tuff remix of 'on my radiio'=the selecter, tic tac toe mix of 'mirror in the bathroom'=the beat, 'ghost dub 91/let us unite'-the specials, r.i.p madska radio mix of 'one step beyond'=madness, an experimental edge to 'two tone party'=buster's allstars, but ever since you've had a good cross over of jungle/dance influenced records and song's like-'ska child'=rebelation, 'sideline below' (nutter mix)=the splitters, 'travelling man'=studio 02, 'rudeboy rock'=lionrock, all great number's, so with ska, now, late 80's or 2-tone, it has alway's needed to move forward and the skacid sound has, all these latter song's prove it, plus i'm into skinhead reggae, which often included backing track instrumentals as b-sides, which were in many way's the predecessor of the acetate dub plate's of dub, so when you look at it.....acid ska wasn't that far from what has come through ska since, just as skinhead reggae version's aren't that far from dub, street beat's-freestyle ska?...marvellous record, to be included in ska in general, also worthy of mention with a acid type mid section is 'space patrol orion'=the busters, so acid ska can't be that bad.....I mean 2-tone & bad manners were looked at as a novelty, but that goe's to show how wrong people are and don't have a clue.....skin-tone 7. skin-tone 7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-5792870061578523112012-11-14T20:17:22.204-05:002012-11-14T20:17:22.204-05:00Hi Marco, I emailed you a few days back did you ge...Hi Marco, I emailed you a few days back did you get it! I found a few of the tracks in other places but the Trojan Horse Mix of We Play Ska ft Rangin Roger only seems to be on this LP..... <br /> Personally I dropped out of the ska/scooter scene when I got sick of arguing with racists. For every 10 ska fans there seems to be one or two misguided skins who will zeig heil to a desmond dekkar record (only 4 years ago) or to the great man himself (25-30 years ago). In Acid Parties and Free Festivals I found hundreds of Skank fans who despised racists as much as I did and still do. Yes I know many of the orig 66-69 lads werent and the style has been stolen BUT I got pig sick of people, OFTEN GOOD PEOPLE, tolerating it cos it was their mates saying it. The important thing about the skank is your feet doing their thing. Also It should be noted that the novelty has continued steadily with numerous Ska/Dance music crossovers ever since. Fatboy Slim and Groove Armada have produced poppy yet occasionally underground trax and the Tiddles n Geezer tune I keep bangin on about. As Marco said the late 80s Acid Ska tunes directly led to Ragga and Jungle and influenced any number of Genres. Just as Count Machukis first amplified words have influenced so much. Purism in Ska is a luxury no white geezer can enjoy. Da beat of da offbeat is something that millions have, do and will enjoy. DoctorBastardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05185419176073089137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-23659623856737611212012-08-14T09:33:36.086-04:002012-08-14T09:33:36.086-04:00Hey DoctorBastardo! Thanks for the comments! Ema...Hey DoctorBastardo! Thanks for the comments! Email me at marcoonthebass@gmail.com and I can arrange to get you the LP. Marco On The Basshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05874620674573034354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-76624457661939104272012-08-13T18:28:50.748-04:002012-08-13T18:28:50.748-04:00PLEASE RE SHARE THE L.P. I D.J.d at a Toots gig th...PLEASE RE SHARE THE L.P. I D.J.d at a Toots gig the other night and was gutted not to be able to play some of these tunes after the gig!!!! The trax are on i-tunes but no-one pays DJs these days lol. As Pato says... my opinion:- One mans "novelty" is another mans "electic". If you wanna be a real purist surely "real" ska can ONLY be from Jamaica 1962-65. In that case where did shuffle become ska, when did ska become rocksteady etc. 2-Tone fused Punk with Ska just as Skacid is a fusion. What of Culture Shock are they not just as ska as the Toasters. Ska is a beat, originally New Orleans RnB until Ernest Raglin emphasised the off beat to create Jamaicas own 60s sound. A sound or style of music now hugely popular, and rightly so. I reject the whole novelty idea. When Jimmy Smith's hammond jazz or a Motorhead tune is used in an advert its the same reason a Ska tune is. COS ITS POPULAR and it will sell the product. PS Please re-up the LP Marco, mine is shot to pieces!!!!DoctorBastardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05185419176073089137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-68791714588197781222012-07-20T14:04:44.151-04:002012-07-20T14:04:44.151-04:00MARCO HELP ME MAN!... I am currently trying to rip...MARCO HELP ME MAN!... I am currently trying to rip my vinyl Copy of SKA BEATS STREET SOUND OF FREESTYLE SKA... and all but 2 tracks jump... (my fault for DJing it to death) PLEASE could you re-up the LP to mediawotsit as megawotsit is no more... Also 3 more Trax worth mentioning (not counting the mighty dub katz) ARE Ska Train by the Beatmasters on the B Side of the 1989 Hey DJ 12"... A very hard to find Skacid remix of the latter day Specials Pressure Drop (think its 12" promo, I had it but some scooter boys saw it at a record fair I was trading at, in my DJ box.. by the time the bidding got to £25 I gave in thinking I'd easy find another... NOT)AND the much harder and newer technoskank Tiddles & Geezer North London Skank 12" repleat with its mock Walt Jabsco label... Interestingly enough Acid ska had a minirevival on the 90s free party scene as most "crusties" love to skank and many had been 2 tone kids... I remember Ska Train getting plays and being danced to by at least on the peeps who recorded the London Skank tunes for the Stay up Forever Collective. I'm currently prepping a torrent of acid ska, skacid and what I've called raggatek... So I'm really hoping you can re up the Ska Beats comp... Incidentally I remember folk at the Hacienda laughing at my love of the Rebel MC stuff as poprave, no it turns out acidska is very underground... PS where can I get a dayglo stingybrim?DoctorBastardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05185419176073089137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-51913100173368813032012-06-19T03:08:15.326-04:002012-06-19T03:08:15.326-04:00Maybe You'll Like This! Peace http://soundcl...Maybe You'll Like This! Peace http://soundcloud.com/punk-cho/third-world-orchestra-t-w-opunk-chonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-89230595579810774442010-02-05T07:51:30.945-05:002010-02-05T07:51:30.945-05:00Thank you so much for this. I've been looking ...Thank you so much for this. I've been looking for Force ten from Navarone for a while now!Adam for all Seasonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16318002356390924859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-60666554829729227032010-01-23T11:50:15.541-05:002010-01-23T11:50:15.541-05:00Thanks Matt. Glad you've found my little slid...Thanks Matt. Glad you've found my little slide of ska heaven here. I would be very interested in hearing your electronic ska experiments and I think the acid ska genre is very well suited to you and your one man show. Bring it on!Marco On The Basshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05874620674573034354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-9623868007281035872010-01-23T10:33:09.992-05:002010-01-23T10:33:09.992-05:00I've heard very little of this, but it has alw...I've heard very little of this, but it has always intrigued me. I'm downloading that compilation now and I'm excited to listen! I've been making some amateurish electronic ska hybrid music for a while now (though considerably different from this kind of stuff). I can see why ska fans would reject this type of warping, but I think it's an awesome testament to the malleability of the genre. I love traditional ska, but I also love finding (and if possible, creating) new and interesting ska- and reggae-influenced sounds.<br /><br />Anyway, some stuff I've done can be heard at http://www.myspace.com/babylonpartymachine and all of the releases are available online for free.Matt Wixsonhttp://www.myspace.com/mattwixsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-24693958466903966712010-01-21T18:24:31.038-05:002010-01-21T18:24:31.038-05:00I know what you're saying Marco but you put yo...I know what you're saying Marco but you put your finger on it with one word...'novelty'. And unfortunately that 'word' has haunted ska for many years over here. With ska being 'used' in that way, or on novelty records, on cheesy TV adverts, in cartoons etc., alot of people and media often look upon ska as this happy silly type music that you jump around to at a wedding. And that does have a knock on effect for all new bands who are trying to play the music well, they're often not taken seriouslydublinsaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03028534269874666963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-73418075598956690552010-01-20T20:46:03.866-05:002010-01-20T20:46:03.866-05:00Thanks for the comment dublinsax. I understand th...Thanks for the comment dublinsax. I understand the sentiment you shared about acid ska, though I always looked at it as an interesting novelty. I also like aspects of dance and big beat so I liked that it was a way to incorporate ska in a new way.Marco On The Basshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05874620674573034354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-65622445894914768752010-01-20T20:14:42.534-05:002010-01-20T20:14:42.534-05:00I have to say I thought the whole skacid thing was...I have to say I thought the whole skacid thing was terrible and fortunately there wasn't any interest from within the ska scene at the time...or beyond it either as things turned out. There were a host of very good ska bands in the UK in the late 80s, a scene was building again and it could be argued that the introduction of acid ska took attention away from those bands, it certainly didn't help 'the scene', that's for sure. Ska was being tipped as making a comeback late 1988, then acid ska came along and the media generally looked upon it all as a bit of a jokedublinsaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03028534269874666963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-2765589683554470312010-01-19T03:22:21.210-05:002010-01-19T03:22:21.210-05:00Thank for this one Marco. I am a Ska and Rockstead...Thank for this one Marco. I am a Ska and Rocksteady Dj and I always wondered if there some kind of electronic/ska fusion that keep the original spirit of ska. I will look for 45s of these.Kipod Animationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442156028152866290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-15529533249125228492010-01-18T17:28:28.388-05:002010-01-18T17:28:28.388-05:00I completely agree with you Joe. I think ska puris...I completely agree with you Joe. I think ska purists were turned off by skacid. Though In many ways skacid was the first step in the progression through jungle, dub step and all other forms of electronic reggae music.Marco On The Basshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05874620674573034354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1134969481939975509.post-75924761096454499722010-01-18T15:50:18.857-05:002010-01-18T15:50:18.857-05:00What a great post. Thank you, Marco. It's a bi...What a great post. Thank you, Marco. It's a bit sad that Skacid only became such a footnote in Ska's history. The idea had more potential I think. Maybe one reason for the "failure" is that Ska musicians were and still are very conservative when it comes to sounds. Which again was partly a concession to the tastes of the hardcore fans. I remember Laurel Aitken howling "Skaciiid" on stage at the 1. International Ska Festival in London. He saw the fun in it.Joe Scholeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09255311933553650118noreply@blogger.com